It is not difficult to save your own seeds and to maintain varieties and to do some breeding. What are the obstacles to do so? What is helping you to get you there? By showing how things in practice are done within the “Initiative circle”� of biodynamic gardeners in Germany, several themes will be discussed. Out of this “Initiative circle” 2 organisations have been founded: one for the maintenance of already existing varieties, propagation of vegetable seeds and the trade to the market; this organisation is called “Bingenheimer Saatgut”. How in practice things are done, from maintenance� of varieties and seed propagation on the field till financial conditions. The second� organisation ,” Kultursaat e. V. “, is founded for the breeding activities for new varieties and for fundamental research for new breeding tools. Here the financial theme is important and off course also the practical work on the field; which breeding methods are fertile?